tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post27584106596772245..comments2024-03-20T13:26:05.510-07:00Comments on justthefood.com...the blog: Never Trust an Ex-Vegan Joni Marie Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02205407456055236462noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-47963726367326444072017-09-02T10:20:12.088-07:002017-09-02T10:20:12.088-07:00https://onlybuyvegan.comhttps://onlybuyvegan.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-83141087582621841262017-08-04T08:21:24.328-07:002017-08-04T08:21:24.328-07:00People who lie also seem unable to match their emo...People who lie also seem unable to match their emotional responses with their reactions. It smiling a tad too late when accepting a gift they obviously do not like. It is like waving their hand to dismiss an issue too early.<a href="http://liedetector.uk" rel="nofollow">http://liedetector.uk</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16644446773264656618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-77764547128133761512017-07-30T05:11:33.222-07:002017-07-30T05:11:33.222-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16644446773264656618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-28118059034049926392017-07-22T00:11:57.090-07:002017-07-22T00:11:57.090-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Obiuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938735174176879718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-24654645531779022582017-06-18T18:09:27.012-07:002017-06-18T18:09:27.012-07:00i will never trust them tutoring sitei will never trust them <a href="https://www.homeworktiger.com" rel="nofollow">tutoring site</a>cledion gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16141004111573806462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-52368639758601798782015-04-01T09:43:10.517-07:002015-04-01T09:43:10.517-07:00I was vegan for 10 months and had a death in the f...I was vegan for 10 months and had a death in the family and had a breakdown and did go back to eating animals and that sucked but when I was healthy enough and was able to think rationally I came back to veganism. Nope was not ideal but am working on showing compassion to myself and animals. I NEVER pretended it was ok to eat animals. I really did enjoy this article and agreed with much of what was said but not everyone is the same. Gracenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-70750215860460331092015-01-04T02:41:34.961-08:002015-01-04T02:41:34.961-08:00Exelent article! But still can't understand ho...Exelent article! But still can't understand how blind some people could be...Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028449372493475850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-87380008571824514152014-12-21T22:54:15.300-08:002014-12-21T22:54:15.300-08:00Note, that's supposed to be 'if it was tru...Note, that's supposed to be 'if it was truely unattainable....' and 'well planned vegan meals...'. Damn you typos and autocorrect! By the way, since I'm here trying in vain to correct my typos from the above post (Gah! there's also no 'is' at the end of 'requires' on the last line either....) I'll take an extra minute to mention how amazing the Plant Positive videos are on YouTube- the author does a great job of highlighting the inaccuranices and misunderstandings of the ideology behind the very angry and usually deeply anti-vegan/vegeterian saturated fat people. I mean, it's only fair since the bulk of the scathing and derogatory comments about veganism/vegeterianism eminate from their die hard followers (the comment above about wanting to eat a vegan is definitely one of the milder I've come across, though I thought I'd use it nontheless to point out how intolerant people can be of a strangers lifestyle choice). Also, for sound advice on good nutrition in vegan diets, GInny Messina is very level headed in her approach. I highly recommend both. Go vegans! We really are amazing and have every right to be proud of ourselves for it. It's a commitment for sure. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-6020852214264848692014-12-21T22:27:35.776-08:002014-12-21T22:27:35.776-08:00You know, I'm tired of having to read childish...You know, I'm tired of having to read childish comments whenever the topic of veganism comes up. I don't know what it is about vegans that infuriate most people, but I'm fed up of being mocked just because I've opted to take a stand to minimise an animals suffering. I think it's amazing we get so much crap when all we've done is chosen to pass up animal products rather than continue to feed our taste buds and the worldwide meat and dairy industries. Not only is it frustratingly childish to name call (and I find is often more telling of of complainers insecurity than the vegans choice to go vegan since I doubt they would feel the need to try to justify it if they honestly believed it was decent), but it reminds me of just how selfish, disgusting, intolerant and ignorant some of us can be as human beings, particularly in regards to how we think we can treat animals and our fellow human beings (take the horrors of fur farming for example, or testing on animals for something as shallow as cosmetic purposes or asking another human being to do the work in slaughterhouse for us when we wouldn't have the stomach or heart to do it ourselves). It's just so predictable and boring (and take note, aside from being ultra annoying too, will never work to deter those of us who are ethical because when we pass by these lovely creatures grazing in a field or huddling under trees in wet weather, no amount of boorish childishness comes close to the pride we feel at having taken a stand to say 'never again'). As far as any ex-vegan is concerned, I don't care what they decide to do, but I do care when they openly start to blame veganism for their failing or poor health (although I do care about - and have great empathy for - each and every future animal that will end up on their plate). Really, when will people finally learn that veganism is not the cause of poor health - poor choices are!!!. If you opt to go down the vegan route, you have to make damned sure you take the time and effort to eat well every single day. I don't believe for a second either that it's unattainable for those in relative good health, so when I hear somebody saying that they had to listen to their bodies, I agree that what they're actually listening to are their taste buds. And let's face it- eating meat is so much easier than going vegan I think that's what draws alot of people back). If we're was truely unattainable though, I doubt governmental bodies worldwide would posit that well planned vegan means are just as nutritious and healthy as well planned onmi meals. Also, I personally don't believe in the concept of ethical meat since grassfed does not always equal to humane, and they too end up in the same killing room as those poor factory farmed animals. I also don't believe in the term humane killing. Also, anyone who believes in the sustainability of meat should check up the UN IPCC reports. Now I'll say again, I have nothing against people who eat meat (though I do have a problem with people who think it's owed to them and will admit -often accompanied with a nasty attitude - that they don't give a toss about the fact that it's slaughtered), but I don't like it when these ex-vegans go out of their way like lots have to scapegoat veganism, particularly when there's a huge volume of information in the scientific journals that highlight the advantages it seems to have in regards health (not to be confused with perfect or optimal health, because nobody knows yet what that requires is). If you want meat, just admit it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-91293778831617468782014-11-28T00:48:00.497-08:002014-11-28T00:48:00.497-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jennifer Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17858001732709467900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-81857710520284369372014-09-05T11:29:33.881-07:002014-09-05T11:29:33.881-07:00There are so many no longer vegans(see Kristens no...There are so many no longer vegans(see Kristens no longer vegan raw blog to see the nonsense she writes and how she does so far to say her teeth broke bc she was vegan!!) and they mislead and misuse their blogs to misdirect people. This can be so confusing to someone new to veganism who wants to learn more about the health benefits. To have someone foolishly write things like this can have a negative impact on a diet which is extremely healthful beneficial to the environment and extremely gentle to the animals we cohabitate on this planet with. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-75130735770853015082014-08-13T09:28:28.497-07:002014-08-13T09:28:28.497-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769953776481655760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-38402999129456282862014-08-02T18:23:51.395-07:002014-08-02T18:23:51.395-07:00I'm glad I found this post before buying some ...I'm glad I found this post before buying some of your books. You may be good at creating recipes, but it's pretty clear that you have some huge, gross blinders about your own ableism. No one owes you or anyone else their health, or any explinations about their health. That you feel you (and other ableist vegans like you) are owed "proof" of anything. <br /><br />P.S. "I find it so interesting how many anonymous posters love to judge me and call me judgmental all in the same sentence. " Maybe they're anonymous because you've shown yourself willing to bully anyone who points out your bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-6680692962321422212014-06-06T18:38:56.230-07:002014-06-06T18:38:56.230-07:00Explain how Joni just started a cult? Do you even ...Explain how Joni just started a cult? Do you even know what a cult means? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-61785643385832209562014-06-06T18:37:06.168-07:002014-06-06T18:37:06.168-07:00I think Joni has a point here: If she's no lon...I think Joni has a point here: If she's no longer vegan, then ethically, yes I think she may want to take the books from the shelves. Because she was a vegan expert, I think she may want to take responsibility for her actions, because her explanation of "giving into cravings" can have potentially disastrous effect. Yes she is no celebrity but she does have some influence. <br /><br />Perhaps some vegans objections to her action is because she hasn't actually owned up to her actions.<br /><br />And yes her reasons for going back to eating meat are honestly, not convincing enough. If she said seafood/dairy perhaps the ramification isn't as great, but steak is a completely different animal - red meat is probably one of the least environmentally friendly food out there. <br /><br />And I think her reaction to vegans' comments aren't the best, especially since she hasn't properly backed up how meat actually improves your health (feeling better...well hey I can say I feel better eating French fries - maybe that's a new health food?)<br /><br />Anonymous, I think you're triggered because deep down inside you don't think you're that healthy, but you want to be seen as healthy. If you truly were comfortable with your diet and health, why would you leave such judgmental comment with swear words? Instead of calling Joni judgmental, why don't you look deeper into yourself?<br /><br />I'm not saying you're unhealthy or healthy for eating seafood/eggs etc I just think you may want to do some inner work before lashing out at others; you're taking what Joni said personally... which may not be necessary<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-24014362439782771672014-05-28T17:40:36.992-07:002014-05-28T17:40:36.992-07:00You're just jealous. People have the choice to...You're just jealous. People have the choice to buy those books if they want. Why are vegans always so angry? Did they eat some shrooms?... ProbablyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-85347718444964511252014-05-28T17:36:53.062-07:002014-05-28T17:36:53.062-07:00I agree with anonymous Joni started a cult.I agree with anonymous Joni started a cult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-91229311879412629012014-05-28T17:34:35.238-07:002014-05-28T17:34:35.238-07:00I'm an ex-vegetarian and don't mind tellin...I'm an ex-vegetarian and don't mind telling the world. You have problems o.O... Any diet can be healthy if done the right way. A lot of Japanese people live so long and they eat fish and sometimes beef or chicken. I only eat wild animals or animals from my farm that had a good life. I will gladly wear their warm fur because I don't waist. Also when there is an override of species in the wild destroying the natural balance there is no other choice but to kill them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-27511372057209824062014-05-24T00:38:13.787-07:002014-05-24T00:38:13.787-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04008607297745381512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-62725839099632787442014-02-05T20:15:17.350-08:002014-02-05T20:15:17.350-08:00I find it Interesting that Alex Jamieson's web...I find it Interesting that Alex Jamieson's website still mentions"fighting cravings" as one of her specialties.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584945041965566486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-51516046295748483212014-01-27T19:49:03.366-08:002014-01-27T19:49:03.366-08:00People like me? What does that mean? People who ...People like me? What does that mean? People who call out others on their hypocrisy? People who care enough about the suffering of innocent sentient beings to give eating them up and not give into "cravings"? If that's what you mean by "people like you" than I honorably take on the role. <br /><br />I find it so interesting how many anonymous posters love to judge me and call me judgmental all in the same sentence. Joni Marie Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205407456055236462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-87709481198389634642014-01-27T19:29:38.618-08:002014-01-27T19:29:38.618-08:00Actually, I do. It is tiny (smaller than a dime) a...Actually, I do. It is tiny (smaller than a dime) and behind my ear, no one would know it was there unless I pointed it out or pulled my hair back, but thanks for judging me, the way you accuse me of judging others. I am being honest.Joni Marie Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205407456055236462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-23550200836982177132013-12-17T13:29:44.506-08:002013-12-17T13:29:44.506-08:00You don't have a "V" tattoo on a hig...You don't have a "V" tattoo on a highly visible place to remind yourself that you are vegan. You have this tattoo to show your special-ness, your superiority, to the rest of the world. When fundamentalist religion is (thankfully) off the table, so to speak, veganism fills a need. Some people just need a hardcore credo to attach to or they will be rudderless. Be honest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-62871163279122675172013-11-27T11:14:11.138-08:002013-11-27T11:14:11.138-08:00noticed this post looking for vegan thanksgiving r...noticed this post looking for vegan thanksgiving recipes even though i am one of the hated ex-vegans. i was vegan for 3.5 years and totally happy and then moved from a hippie town to a new city. after about a year i started eating some dairy because as a lean guy already (5'8'', 155 lbs currently) I kept losing a pound here and there and got down to like 149. clearly you cant trust me even though i eat 95% plant based diets since i also eat greek yogurt and egg whites sometimes. ive been that way for 9 years since and total happy.<br /><br />honestly i think people like you do much more to hurt all the overarching causes associated with veganism by turning it into some sort of religion for the chosen few rather than something all of us can do (ie eat less animal products). im sure you dont trust that eating some dairy was a healthy thing for me to do, but thats the point...you just look like a judgmental asshole and it turns people off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4886901506309063491.post-58977374166893871582013-08-22T06:25:50.521-07:002013-08-22T06:25:50.521-07:00I struggle daily with my craving for unhealthy foo...I struggle daily with my craving for unhealthy foods like french fries or (vegan) sweets.<br />I know they are not good for me and I know I do better on a WFPB way of eating but damn... if my hubbie buys a box of french fries I will certainly dig in.<br />This is the kind of logic that Alex thinks we should live by.<br /><br />Before I was vegan I could inhale a chocolate every day.<br /><br />I still struggle with my weight but I know its because of vegan junk food rather than veganism itself.<br />I constantly get inspiration from the real experts, namely T Colin Campbelll and Caldwell Esselstyn.<br /><br />If she was really craving meat why not eat soy or seitan?<br /><br />I think she is just jumping on the paleo bandwagon and will make a lot of money out of it.<br /><br />While the rest of us struggle to convince others that Veganism an easy lifestyle. (It really is)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com